transferring recordings to PC

[pwnified]

Yes, all the raw wav files are located in that subfolder (Bins). I hate to be advocating a solution such as this iExplorer software, but I mean come on, there is nothing else. Plus the software actually works good. There was a time when the ONLY option was the Wi-Fi server. Now there is iTunes File Sharing but it is still severely limited.

With the Wi-Fi method, the tracks can be rendered on demand. The raw audio of a song is kept as Bins, and the tracks are just regions that point into those bins. So the tracks don't actually exist as a file that can be moved to somewhere else. They need to be rendered and the Wi-Fi solution is nice for this reason (it's easy to tell if the track is requested through the web page).

So really the only way to get the tracks is to have MultiTrack running at the time so it can render them, and the Wi-Fi method necessitates this.

I'm hoping to have a software program (similar to iExplorer) that can be used to render tracks and give full access to YOUR data.

[miden]

pwnified, when you say rendered, are you talking about mixed down with efx etc? All I really want is to get the straight wav files into Sonar for processing and mastering..I would be adding efx, eq etc etc, in Sonar.

Dennis

[pwnified]

In the Wi-Fi download page, uncheck the FX option. Then each track will be rendered from the regions, but it will be a straight bit for bit copy with the exception of region fades. Region Fades (fade ins / fade outs) are by default very short, so it will essentially be a perfect copy of all the parts of the bins that compose the track. Empty space will be added between regions, and before the start of the first region. This is so that the tracks will line up when you drag them into your desktop daw. The tracks length will only be as long as the end of the last region on that track.

With FX turned on, the signal path is much more complicated. In addition to the track FX being applied, the volume and pan are used to render into a 32 bit destination. This is because the volume has 12 db of boost so it's possible to clip a 16 bit space. EQ also has 18 db of boost. Bus and Master FX are then applied to the entire rendering, which has the potential to lengthen it by up to 20 seconds extra. And then a normalization pass to get the signal back down so it doesn't clip 16 bits (but only if it would have clipped).

So this is all track rendering with the Wi-Fi. But if you use the iExplorer method, only the bins will be accessible. They will be the raw wav files with no processing. If you are recording a band with many inputs at the same time, arm all the tracks you want to record then rewind, the hit record, and then play. If you need to redo a take, you can select all the regions and Erase them. At the end of a good recording, go into the Bin Browser -> Song tab and "Delete all unused bins", this will get rid of all the previous takes and old bins in there, so that when browsing it with iExplorer you'll see only the good bins. Hope this helps...

[miden]

Thanks pwnified...that helps a lot.

[Thatbastarddon]

Yes, thank you for the info, and thank you for the great tool-set.

[offthesky]

iexplorer has worked great for me to transfer whole projects between my ipod touch 2nd gen and my ipad 2(plus iexplorer is free). it's way way faster than using the built in ftp method (which multitrack has to compile a .zip, etc)...

but when creating renders of tracks, there's no other way than the wifi right? this method has greatly helped speed up that process for me: http://forum.harmonicdog.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1322

[offthesky]

i'm curious: if the app crashes while it's creating a .zip file of the entire project for archiving, does it leave behind a temp file? space is getting very limited on my device and if i need to go in via iexplorer and manually delete a residual file then no problem - just let me know where it is. or if multitrack cleans up after a crash during this .zip process, does it clean up automatically? just curious, thanks!

[pwnified]

The Temp folder is where the zip files are created. The zip file will be deleted on a successful transfer, but if there is a crash, it will hang around until the temp folder is cleared. The temp folder is cleared by the operating system sometimes, and by MultiTrack as specific times (starting the wi-fi server will flush this folder). So if you suspect there is space being taken up in the temp folder, just start and stop the wi-fi server (tap the Wi-Fi button on/off) and the folder will be flushed. In iExplorer, this folder is at (Apps -> MultiTrack -> tmp -> MultiTrack). You can also toast the contents through iExplorer.

BTW creating a project zip of the entire song can use tons of filespace, and if it runs out of space, it's probably going to crash and leave the temp file in there.

[offthesky]

excellent explanation - thanks for that! so far iexplorer has been very useful(and very fast) for moving large (2 gig+ sometimes) entire projects from the ipod touch 2nd gen to the ipad 2.

btw, i know multitrack on the 2nd gen ipod touch does not support track/bus effects. is it safe to assume that if i move a project from the ipad 2 and open it on the ipod touch that any track effects i've enabled on the ipad will be lost forever?